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  • I am kind of new at this game and am trying to save up shards for a legendary hero. I already have four and want my fifth to be a really good one. Right now my lineup is Paladin lvl 63, Ninja lvl 57, Druid lvl 57, Snowzilla lvl 57, and Painda lvl 63. I'm trying to decide whether to save up for Thunder God or Immortep. If I had the choice between the two, I would take Immortep, but saving up for him will take more than 3 times as long. Is it worth it? Thanks.

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    • IMO when it comes to shards purchases you should buy TG first, Champ second and Immo third.  And that's it.  Hopefully you don't even need to buy that much and roll one or more of them with gem rolls or from a hero card.  TG is a solid hero that can even be used in endgame and still be decent if not great.  Champ is needed for boss battle pretty much by everyone (some higher level players can use debuff teams or other strats but vast majority use champ for boss).  And Immo is really required for HBM until you get Vlad and/or Santa.  


      None of the other shard heroes are really worth spending the shards on IMO.  Either they're niche heroes (only good in one mode/situation) or they're too expensive compared to using the shards for skilling up a hero.  

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    • I agree with Erikk00. Buy TG - a very solid hero. And unless your Ninja has 5/5 Heavy Blow buy Champ second. Hopefully, by the time you've saved the 7,000+ shards you need for Immo you will have either rolled him or gotten Vlad or Santa.

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    • I agree TG is the best all around shard legendary.  But I also like Succubus.  If you have a suc you will have a huge leg up for the arena and get more stars to lvl up quicker, unless you're a guild who does boss everyday.  

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    • Siren is the best shard legend now.  She's range, does way more damage than you'd expect with her proc bonus, and can help replace the damage bonus loss when you take PD out of your lineup for an all range HBM base.  But between the two listed, especially for early game, I also agree that TG is the better option.

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    • The only place where I see siren being better than immortep is at SM 1 when no one has a santa boom to wipe out buildings, and she can barely do that job.

      My siren is sitting inside a tower, because I don't see her being useful anywhere else, let's take some places for example.

      HBM: Immo vs Siren: Immo wins, you need to exterminate all enemy troops. Damage boost is worse than druid boost and only useful if you happen to hit enemy heroes, which is very unlikely.

      Dungeons: Immo + Tg vs Siren + Tg: the choice is obvious.

      For my taste, Siren is way overpriced, you would expect her to be at least as good as GR+ Immortep, because her price states that is her value, and it is not.

        • disclaimers** These are my personal opinions, i don't state any of this as facts
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    • Immo is useless in a range HBM build because Immo isn't range...  Siren is better than TG or Immo in HBM O+.  She's not an early game hero (see my previous comment), that's why she's so expensive.  But if you have another hero or two that let you get away with buying Siren early instead of Immo, it will benefit you way more in the long run.


      Furthermore, for farming ED710, Siren is INFINITELY more useful than TG and Immo.  They're actually terrible in it because they help to kill the boss before the rest of the building are smoked, thereby increasing the likelihood of your heroes dying to the 30 hero traps.  A good team kills the whole base while standing still and leaves the boss wondering what happened.  Siren, and her built in Slow 5, can be a very crucial part of that team.  Immo and TG are so bad in ED710, I'd take Ice Demon and Frost Witch over them any day of the week.  Of couse, we are looking at the game from two very different perspectives.  I'm guessing you're still on HBM I, so if OP is closer to your level of play than mine, your advice may be more useful.

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    • Let me rephrase it then.

      - 40 Shard dungeon: Immo > Siren

      -HBM I: Immo > Siren

      When you get into HBM II, you'll probably get more useful heroes than Siren, and spending 20K shards means losing a lot of skill exp. I don't see it a useful investment, In fact, the only reason I own her is because I had a lucky roll.

      But still, I am about to beat J, so I didn't get into the hardest HBM yet.

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    • It's not that Siren is a bad hero, she is simply way overpriced. Her price is worth 400,000 exp points so I would take that over having her. I, too, was lucky enough to roll her and I, too, keep her in a tower even though she is 9-star, 7/10 and has a pretty decent talent (4/5 WG). I tried using her in Lost Battlefield as part of my deadbeat 3rd team but even there she quickly lost her spot to AC.

      I haven't been able to see her usefulness in HBM O, P and Q (used her there for awhile); have never tried her in R. To be honest, however, I don't use TG or Immo either.

      I've tried using her in ED 7-10 and Chest Rockfield is absolutely right she would be infinitely better than TG or Immo. However, in my case I still find her lacking and she hasn't managed to earn a permanent spot. After all, we can only use 6 heroes and my lineup is PD, Cupid, Ork, Molty, Santa and Pixie (my Pixie has 5/8 Slow Down). I do prefer Santa to Siren because of Siren's directional limitations. Excluding PD and Cupid, each one of the four heroes plays dual roles so it's a bit hard substituting one for Siren. Even if I didn't use Molty, someone may argue that a GR with a 3/5 SD crest set would be just as efficient, if not better (flying unit). Chest, I am curious, what is your ED 7-10 lineup?

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    • DarkMatter, yeah, when you get to HBM II you may find out how useful she is depending on your build.  


      Mete, 20k shards is a lot, but that's less than a week's haul for another unique hero, which, depending on how much money you spend or how unlucky you are, may be a really important addition considering LB.

      I can beat Q, but farm P because, as unlucky as I have been, my main still can't get Vlad even though I have F2P smurfs that have 3 of him, and I only farm Q at about 85%. So in P, without Vlad, Molt, Pixie, or Warlock, she's a pretty good 5th or 6th (I say 5th because I'd dump GR before her) in an all range HBM setup.  My buddy who has every hero (except maybe Harpy), can sit in 1st place in Arena, sits on page 7/8 in might, and farms R uses her for HBM, so she may even be better than I think she is.  Yes, Santa is obviously better than Siren in every possible way except for maybe the potential to leave stragglers in HBM.  And yes, a Pixie with Slow 5 would be almost as good as Siren in ED710, but I'd only use her over Siren if I needed EXP for her, Siren is still better in my opinion because of attack speed and building destruction which is the name of the game there.  It is the same reason that Siren is far better than a GR with Slow crests.  He only kills trops and heroes which is completely irrelevant in beating the dungeon.  Siren may only hit buildings for half the battle, but that's still more buildings than Pixie or GR hit.  As for the dual roles, Siren does HBM and ED710, so I don't have that issue.  I suppose if you used her in HBM it would make sense to dungeon her too?

      My ED710 lineup changes often based on who needs EXP.  When my heroes were all capped at 180, I was using a baby 5/9 PD and Cupid.  The lower PD helped offset the extra danage Cupid was adding which, if I used the big one, would always kill the boss long before the buildings meaning the dungeon wasn't a "no look".  Currently I use my big PD, Mino, Santa, Siren, & Ice Demon with a decoy SM (which would change to Vlad if I ever get him).  Siren actually replaced Ork in my lineup when I bought her, and I've never used Cupid (except with baby PD), so I see no reason why she shouldn't replace one of those in yours.  Your lineup sounds like it has WAY too much direct damage to boss and not enough global.  Are you killing the boss before you 100% the base?  

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    • Dude - 20K shards in a week? I know I lose shards by not doing dungeons constantly but, without keeping close track, I would say I get around 1,500/day... Then again, every player is different.

      I love my Santa but he does leave stragglers behind. That's actually the reason I stopped doing Q and moved to R even though I put hero traps before every raid which is a pain the butt process. For some reason, I've never had enemy troops stuck on a distant building when doing R... But to substitute Siren for Santa sounds almost like heresy :)

      As far as the dungeon - I always kill the boss before the buildings. The bombs are an annoyance but most of my heroes have revive so they tend to survive. That said, your comments piqued my interest and I tried Siren again. I forgot to put Mino and Pixie in (I don't use either in my main 6) so I went PD, Cupid, Santa, Ork, Molty and Siren. It worked pretty well! Next, I will try Mino and maybe SM instead of Ork and Santa although not having a healer sounds worrisome. 

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    • Uugh, I wrote a huge detailed reply and this stupid thing deleted instead of posting it.  Here's the short, I'm annoyed at this thing version.

      So 2 weeks for you, still not bad.

      I can't remove Santa because I have no Vlad. I wasn't suggesting replacing him with her in HBM.

      Try PD, Siren, Mino, Santa and another slowing hero like Ice Demon, Ork, Warlock, or s non-boost SD crested hero, and a flyer for decoy like SM, Vlad, or Molt and tell me what you think.  You don't need a healer, I never use one except that short time I was leveling Ork.

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    • Guys update I rolled a Harpy a few days ago now my lineup is Harpy 71, Ninja 70, Paladin 68, Druid 68, Snowzilla 68. Will this lineup work or should i switch anything? Also, what does ED 710 mean?

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    • Elite dungeon, 7th door, 10th spot

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    • Chest you don't use a healer in HBM at all?  That surprises me.  

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    • While I have beat HBM P numerous times without a healer (when I forget to put in my HBM lineup before I start one) I always run one if my proper heroes are in.  The lineups we have been describing are ED710 lineups, and for that, I do not use a healer.

      HBM: Santa, Druid, Siren, Vlad, Cupid, SM

      ED710: Santa, PD, Siren, Vlad, Mino, Ice Demon

      Yes, Dark, you see Vlad.  My gf just rolled him for me 2 days ago with 300 gems.  I immediately fed him 86,600 shards and enough crystal, books, and HB to take him to lvl 141 i85 9/10.  He's a beast.

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    • thunder god is a better pick. simply because he is a god. not only that,he's is an all around hero.good for radis,dungons,hero trails, you name it.now immortep on the orther hand. he is a DR hero. and orther words doungon/radis. 
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      thundergod vs immortep

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    • Moneyboyme20 wrote:
      thunder god is a better pick. simply because he is a god. not only that,he's is an all around hero.good for radis,dungons,hero trails, you name it.now immortep on the orther hand. he is a DR hero. and orther words doungon/radis. 
      Your mom

      thundergod vs immortep

      love thunder god so much that i wish i could have all six in he batle feild him and skull knights are the boss put together

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    • I would recommend buying Immortep first because of his skill, his skill is jsut like the Vlad, but is less in damage. Thundergod is the second choice, and f you want another USEFUL shard hero, then get Grizzly Reaper because of his awesome hero killing skill. Atlanticore's skill gets stronger with every level of his skill, but the cooldown time will last longer than the previous level. 

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